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ISKRA INTERVIEW for Crackfix Propaganda
1. Hello to the Northern Wastes. How’s Canada these days? The blizzards and forest fires treating you well? How did ISKRA form and what was the original plan?
Canada is all right, weather systems as harsh as always. although where we live is a lot warmer than what most people might think. Victoria is on the southern tip of Vancouver Island, below the 49th, and has a fairly pleasant micro climate. we rarely get snow or weather below -5 C. The summers are moderate with temperatures rarely higher than 32-35 C and there is always an ocean breeze which keeps things under control.
Iskra formed in late 2002 when I returned to Victoria after living in Montreal for a couple of years. I had been studying classical music composition thereby taking a break from the anarchist music scene, although I was still involved with anarchist politics. Upon my return I decided hunt down some musicians and start a new band. I had been working on some of the Iskra material much earlier, around 98, but never managed to get a band off the ground due to other projects and the loss of a drummer. My plan for Iskra was simple: cross black metal with crust. Amebix had already done a similar thing by taking Venom and Motorhead and fusing these influences with anarchist punk. Amebix were part of the first wave of anarchist punk; what I sometimes refer to as the “Crass Constellation,” which produced some of the most diverse and creative anarchist recordings to date. If anyone disagrees I urge them to listen to the “Bullshit Detector” series. It was on these comps that both Napalm Death and the Amebix made their official debuts. Also included were many other amazing bands which seem to have slipped out of modern punk conscience. Bands like Omega Tribe, Molitov Cocktail, Capital Punishment, Destructors, Normality Complex, Anthrax, Poison Girls, Passion Killers, etc. etc. Sorry I’ve digressed from my point.....so around 93-94 I had been listening to Dark Throne, Emperor, Immortal, Satyricon, Enslaved etc. etc. and decided that this modern form of metal could easily be fused with the modern underground punk, which of course at that time was crust. Since both came from Sabbath, which in turn came from a long line of blues artists such as Robert Johnson. This raw Delta blues eventually led to Jimi Hendrix in the 60s. It was Hendrix who created the first metal sounds with works like “Machine Gun” as well as the later works found on records like “Last Rays of the Setting Sun” and “South Saturn Delta”. I wanted to create a style which fused my interests as a musician. I wasn’t worried about losing people, crust had already done that (to this day most young punks haven't even heard Nausea). I also wanted to mix in elements of mid nineties political powerviolence and grind(Capitalist Casualties, Man Is The Bastard, Slavestate, Assuck, Hellnation, Lack of Interest, etc.). In addition the lyrics had to be worth reading. I have never been satisfied by simply repeating what others have already said. Ideas can be repeated but the perspective should be different and more involved than the last, otherwise I personally feel there is no point. Then again, I guess its better to have a million bands with a simple antiwar message than not; newcomers will then be more likely to run into a record which harbors that sentiment. However, I prefer to push the boundaries as much as possible. I see the underground anarchist punk project as an evolution. Its not just one thing. I think that the music and art within the punk underground, that has been produced over the last 30 years, proves that punk has always evolved, right from the beginning.
2. The band seems to have revolutionized the crust/punk scene at the moment, especially for the Profane Existence obsessives. Your sound has been compared to early death metal, early black metal, and yet your roots are firmly in the punk scene. How did you come to make such a brutal yet lively sound?
Well everything we do has been done before, its just that we’ve consolidated our influences and plugged them into our own forms. Of course each person in the band brings their own special talents, which creates a unique sound. I would say that the diversity of interest between the six members of Iskra contribute to the band’s success. We’re not really trying to “revolutionize” the crust/punk scene, we are simply trying to do our own thing with respect to the history of the music and the politics we embrace, I think this is what punk has always been about. Certain shit bands have calcified the late 70s-early 80s within the mainstream, but the real underground had left that sound behind a long time ago. Luckily the real bands, like Crass and Rudimentary Peni, cannot be copied! They were just to creative, to original. I mean the influence can be heard in groups like Cress, but the original sound can never be duplicated. One of Crass’ guitarists never even learned to play a chord! He just played rhythmically with glissandi and noise....and it sounds great. The Ex were around pretty early as well. They are one of the original DIY bands that still makes their own product to this day. We are looking to preserve the spirit of that anarchist punk scene as well as make our own contribution to the movement. That is how we show our respect. At the same time we can’t deny our metal roots. We all listened to metal since we were very young. I see metal as being connected to the working class. That's changed now but in the beginning all the working class rockers listened to the great thrash bands of the eighties. It was my native brothers that turned me onto Slayer, Kreator, and Destruction when I lived in a small town called Ucluelet located on he extreme West coast of the island. The white kids were all listening to fucking Glass Tiger and shit like that.
3. What is your opinion on black metal as a genre? Obviously as a political movement they are an unequaled force (in their anti-Christianity) but do you think the music is too powerful for its own good? By that I mean, do you think there is any life left in that school of thought?
Black metal interests me musically. It was like a breath of fresh air back in the day(around 93) when Blackened metal hit hard. Before that it was all Deicide, Cryptopsy, Pungent Stench, and Cannibal Corpse, you know, really heavy stuff with low vocals. Usually quite technical. Then Dark Throne hits the stage; low fi, raw, simple, no muted chords, high pitched nasty sounding vocals: it was really amazing! On the other hand, I find most of the opinions associated with BM quite backwards. I think their ideologies are confused and delusionary. The whole church burning trend is pretty interesting, but I think the motives behind such activities are confusing. Are they Satanists? They’re certainly not Pagan, at least not in the real sense of that religion. If they are Satanists then they are merely Christians, since you can’t really believe in one without the other. Unless of course Satan is only symbolic for a particular brand of hatred and confused rebellion. I’m sometimes impressed with their will to follow through with certain actions: killing band members, murdering random humans, burning churches, eating dead creatures, hacking off goat and pig heads etc. (I’m not sure if this is still going on in today’s black metal scene but it certainly was in the beginning). I don’t think such activities are good in any way, but they are pretty hardcore. Imagine sticking a knife into your band mates head! I mean what's going on? What are these people thinking?
A lot of the lyrics are just badly written “poetry” about trolls and imaginary realms, which of course certain BM bands claim to control. I think that the most dangerous movement in Black Metal is the “War Metal” and “Nazi Skin Black Metal.” Many of the bands involved within these sub-genres have a fairly clear right wing politic. Some incorporate the neo-hedonistic beliefs harbored by the Nazi party back in the 1920s-40s. Although many of these bands claim to be apolitical they espouse certain sentiments that exist within fascist politics such as white pride and the ascension of europe. Iskra is opposed to such backwards thought. These are the bands that will convince youngsters into voting for governments like the Bush regime, the Canadian Alliance(the right wing party of Canada), or into committing hate crimes on the street. These bands prey on the angry youth, who are often confused about their direction in life.
Some people see it as contradictory for Iskra to be listening to black metal, and on the surface it may seem so. But we are strong in our beliefs, enough to be able to listen to anything and be critical. There is the old maxim : “Know thy enemy,” or : “keep your friends close but your enemy closer.” You might also see it as a type of subversion rather than support. Many black metal fans get angry when they hear us being called black metal. Our tape “fucking scum” was being circulated through the black metal underground as a trade item by the person who does “Harsh Brutal Cold”, many were returned with angry letters about it not being black metal. On another level, what if some kids, who love black metal, appreciate our efforts? It could be a turning point to a more positive and active outlook. I’ve met some pretty stoked metalheads on tour; stoked that there is a metal band with something to say. This is a common thing for us. So we’ve moved beyond the “punk ghetto,” as some people like to call it. At least to some extent. Perhaps we’ve been somewhat successful in inviting more people to participate in a revolutionary culture. Or maybe not! Its hard to judge really.
4. I was quite surprised to find that your lyrics are equally as violent and unforgiving as the music, especially songs like Massacre of the Innocents! Do your political beliefs stem from a specific group or is Iskra its own politician?
Iskra is anarchist. Our music is an extremity of our alienation. That is why we are comfortable participating in an intimate underground movement. We don’t need contracts, TV, or Radio Stations. We search for truth and relay our findings in an indirect way; in cipher form, if you will. If one wants to hear Iskra’s message they have to decode our art. The Musical material becomes the stage for our interaction with the world. We hope to expose the intentions of the ruling elite, who are not leaders but jailers. We hold no claim to finality but try to understand reality. Revealing problems and connections, polarities and contradictions. We put no system forward, only the ethic of the anarchist. At the same time we critique the present political systems, which in our opinion do not work. But we are not politicians ( at least not in the traditional sense). We are perhaps observers. I think that most of all we are musicians, artists who have, in our own individual ways, become aware. We see and comment, that is our role as anarchist musicians. We have ideas about alternative modes of organizing, but we are not political scientists, sociologists, or economists: these are the types of people who can conceive of such things. Unfortunately there seems to be a severe lack of people within those fields willing to propose radical alternatives. Although they certainly exist.
We hate wars but understand that the class war is already raging (as it should be) and that we must do our part any way we can.
That until there are no longer First class and second class citizens of any nation Until the color of a man's skin Is of no more significance than the color of his eyes - Me say war.
-Marley
As it is those in power who cultivate the class structure, it is those in power that make this war a necessity, not the people. The people are defending themselves against the injustice and ill conceived distribution of wealth. Millions of people are literally fighting for their lives against the capitalist parasites. The vampires. We understand that the ruling classes will not relinquish power without first killing those who challenge their self serving structures. Remember what happened to the Black Panthers and AIM? They became effective and therefore targeted and destroyed by the state. We support the militant revolutionary in our words and imagery. We wish to open people’s eyes to the existence of such revolutionaries. In our seemingly secure First World existence knowledge of such realities can easily slip away from our consciousness. We help to ensure that this kind of collective amnesia doesn’t happen. Isolation from the world means death for revolutionary movements, that is why the corporate media does not keep us informed of such activities.
We are frustrated to see children dying in the streets of wealthy countries, we are sickened by the murderous methods used by capitalist parasites in order to ravage the earth’s resources for their own profit gain. Ward Churchill is correct i when he says that we must act. Otherwise we are with the enemy. A lot of people attack Churchill for his comparison of death tolls and his charge that the people in the towers were guilty by association. But have we really thought about what he is saying? He’s saying that anyone who allows the US state to conduct business as usual are guilty. I’m sure you’ve all heard the liberals at the annual Earth Day parade shouting “If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.” Chuchill is saying the same thing. His death toll comparisons are not meant to dehumanize people, or objectify them. He is simply trying to invite the average person to put things into perspective. In a sense, those victims of the trade center bombing were also victims of the US state, no? Whether it was Bin Laden or Bush who brought those towers down, it was the US state that created the situation through its reckless behavior worldwide. Anyone who really knows Churchill’s writings and recordings know that he is fighting for the dignity of the first nations people, who have a very different perspective than your average white radical; who of course have the option of changing his/her clothes and fitting in at any time. Churchill is also fighting for the freedom of humanity and the earth. Many radicals I’ve known through my life have become moderates, liberals who are ready to attack people like Churchill, people who put their ass on the line and pay the price. Now for all his efforts Churchill has been stripped of his job and dignity as a revolutionary. Even if one does not agree with everything Churchill says, which is inevitable anyway, they can at least support him in his time of need.
5. In Prisoners of Conscience you list a group of revolutionaries inside the US prison system. One of these people is Ted Kaczynski, do you agree with his sentiments and ideology? Some people within the punk scene think his ideas and actions were as far from the supposed ‘punk’ ideal as you can get. Opinions?
I don’t know what the “punk ideal” is or if such a thing exists. I’ve seen “punks” that rape, I’ve seen “punks” that kill each other, I’ve seen “punks” get kids into heroin, I’ve seen “punks” drink themselves into oblivion, I’ve seen “punks” take their own lives. Then there are the punks that work against all of the above. So I don’t really know about any collective punk project. Kaczynski, on the other hand, is worth consideration, especially when speaking of political action. His actions are politically driven, which makes him a political prisoner. He is an anti-technology, anti -civilization political activist and he’s no fool. in fact, I would say he’s quite in line with the primitivist stance that is happening on the West coast, although most of those anarchists probably don’t support Ted. Yet what he says is very interesting and I urge anarchists to read his manifesto and articles, they are solid revolutionary documents even if you don’t agree with his point of view. He was a successful insurgent. He only got caught because of his rat brother. Many people are frightened to support him because he targeted human beings rather than buildings or equipment. His targets were diverse: a geneticist, a computer scientist, an advertising executive, the California Forestry Association President, etc. etc. I guess its Ok to be a moderate anti-tech but not a militant? I don’t really see any other way but to dispose of those who are killing the earth. We can say “pretty please,” but I don’t know... Do revolutionaries really believe that there can be revolution without death? If so I would say they are fooling themselves. It would be nice if the rich and powerful suddenly read some anarchist literature and said “yeah, this makes sense! Lets do it!” But its not going to happen. As I already mentioned, they’ll kill if ever you are effective. If the CEOs and state leaders continue to destroy the planet, along with the life it supports, then they should pay the price for their ignorance and selfishness. Perhaps they should be assassinated. How long must people beg for change? Do the leaders listen? No they don’t. It may only be a symbolic gesture, but I’d love to see Bush catch a bullet, fuck him and the scum that support his agenda.
I personally don’t agree with a lot of what Ted has to say, but he’s still a political prisoner. Fuck, we mentioned a bunch of marxists to, but nobody gave us shit for that! If people are willing to really make that kind of a life decision, to go underground, to live in self-imposed exile, don’t they deserve some consideration? I think so.
6. Do you support political violence? Would you support and be actively involved in an unorganized violent revolt against the state? It seems strange that so many people still oppose the destruction of the governments even now, so close to WW3.
Its not so much that we support political violence, its that political violence is inevitable if we are to take revolution seriously. That said I think that the rest of your question is answered. The problem is access to real training. Of course we will never have a force large enough to take a government out but, if people were taught specific skills, I think the system could be destabilized. If its destabilized at home then they will have to deal with internal conflict rather than slaughtering people all over the planet. They’ve built a house of cards really. If the electrical systems are taken out, computer systems, train tracks, highways etc. There would be major problems for state leaders. Such targets could be taken out by small numbers of trained insurgents. It would have to be hit and run tactics compounded with long range sniper techniques. There would have to be both rural and urban systems of support, safe-spots, food supplies, weapons and explosives etc. Such a movement would take a lot of work to organize, but is possible. The third world resistance movements can provide guidance.
7. What is Iskra’s utopian dream? Obviously everyone has a realistic idea of how this will end up (war, revolution, mass death, nuclear winter) but everyone usually also has some idea of how they would like it to turn out (forest cities, solar power, equality, unity).
I can’t really predict the future. I don’t want to be to negative here, so I won’t get into what I see happening in the future. Utopian dreams? I’m not much into the idea of utopia, that is I don’t see that there could be a “perfect” state. This doesn’t mean we can’t try. The word ‘utopia’ (which means “no place”) was coined by Sir Thomas More in his book ‘Utopia,’ from 1516. In the book, he basically wreaks havoc on christian beliefs by exposing religious hypocrisy. More and the philosopher Erasus were both Catholic Humanists, an idea which, in its basic form, combines faith with reason. More, in his depiction of Utopia, indicates areas of Christian society that are in need of improvement. He also asks the basic question: is an ideal state possible?
We deal with the now. I see positive pockets of alternative existence within the general society in which we live. Right now that's all we can hope for. There is no mass movement which will lead us away from these miserable death systems that run our world now. The last great anarchist movements were destroyed by Marxists (Russia and Spain). At best we can keep the idea of anarchist alternatives alive for future generations. We can do whatever we can in order to to aid and abet the progression of anarchism. We can make small steps forward, and perhaps one day humanity will step beyond this dark age.
That said, I can envisage a breakdown of the nation-state into regional districts. The people who live in such regional district will make decisions in a collective manner. Work places are broken down into collectives. Representatives from trade based collectives would meet in order to discuss the issues of the day and make decisions based upon need and function. In turn a representative from that meeting could go to a regional meeting to propose actions depending on what the previous collective meeting deemed important. All representatives would be accountable and such positions would be rotational. This kind of organization would largely depend upon the ecology of the region, therefore ecological considerations would be of the utmost importance. I don’t envision a ‘primitivist’ society or a ‘syndicalist’ society, I envision a variety of coexisting possibilities depending upon how people want to live. The underlying basic anarchist principles of mutual aid, non-oppression and respect would be the common thread between such diverse modes of living. Of course these qualities exist without being called ‘anarchist.’ I say anarchist because such ideas have become synonymous with that particular mode of thought. Anarchists would respect non-anarchist modes of organizing that are willing to coexist. Native sovereigntists, for example, have their own vision of how things can be organized.
Those who claim anarchism is about chaos are false, although chaos has its place in revolutionary movement. I would say that the present systems are ‘chaotic,’ that is they lack any kind of logic or reason (in the true sense of those words). It doesn’t make sense to me that a society should be organized in such a way as to destroy itself along with the planet that supports its existence.
I suggest that anyone interested in preexisting anarchist modes of organization read about the Spanish Civil War, where real anarchist organization took place on quite a large scale. I also suggest picking up any literature concerning anarchist thought; it is a diverse body of work unified by the universal anarchist theme of non oppressive politics. Much of the classical anarchism is outdated but still very interesting to read. The great thing about anarchism is that it is not a “closed” system, like Marxism. It is open to changing perspectives and coexistent variants. Anyone who understands the basic theory can implement his/her own visionary anarchist projects.
8. Is Iskra nihilist? Have you noticed the inherent nihilism of the modern westernized societies? By that I mean, the way that most humans accept certain trains of thought without even thinking about it being a political idea. For example, a lot of people openly believe there is nothing after death, this is your one shot, so fuck it all up and have fun before you die. Yet they don’t know this is a pretty defeatist way of thinking. Opinions again?
"A nihilist is a person who does not bow down to any authority, who does not accept any principle on faith, however much that principle may be revered."
Turgenev's 1861 novel Fathers And Sons
Nihilist theory is multifaceted. It is certainly not a “belief in nothing,” as many people think. If we are to go by Turgenev’s definition, stated above, then the answer to your question would be “yes”. But its not quite that simple. Nihilism is a complex of associations and ideas. There is what some would call “passive” nihilism, which is sort of the Postmodern thing of just letting the world swirl around you. You are an observer, nothing more. Its like an Existential state. One can still be critical but ultimately ineffective. I think we all lapse into this sort of fatalistic frame of mind once and a while, for some maybe all the time. I always thought that workers who think, which seems rare, often lapse into this passive state. I’m from the worker class so I know first hand that this subgroup is purposely kept in a state of perpetual ignorance. Its these folks who have been bred to not trust education and who will ultimately put the right-wing into full power. Like Kafka’s anti-heroes who are condemned to mindless work. Characters who are sentenced to death when they refuse to conform. Or the psychotic alienation of a Dostoievski character. Both authors are forerunners of the later Existential philosophy, if I remember correctly.
Another form of nihilism is ‘political,’ in the revolutionary sense. This type of Nihilist might say : “Bring on revolution with all of its deadly destructive force so that we may transcend beyond the authoritarian hell that has been created. To what end? Know one knows because there is no such thing as teleology ( the belief in a collective final purpose)”. So you can see that nihilism can work with anarchism. Many forms of Anarchism, like Nihilism, reject absolutes, unproved faiths etc. and instead build from what already exists around us in a non-authoritarian way. Nihilists would probably reject anarchism, but there are grounds for elision. Are we nihilists? There are elements for sure.
The type of nihilist you are describing should perhaps try a little harder to understand what the word actually means. Nihilism can be about living life to the fullest, not necessarily in a destructive manner. Even if you believe destruction is necessary, it doesn’t mean it should include self destruction or a disrespect for life.
To believe that there is “nothing after death” is not in tune with the nihilist skeptic because one simply does not know what is after death. Does that make sense? What is meant by “nothing” anyway? A nihilist would honestly say “I can’t believe in anything put forth as truth (concerning after death, or anything else for that matter) because we quite simply do not know.”
9. What level of extremity would you support in the eco/animal rights war? Assassination, homicide, arson, suicide bombing?
I would say that the present system needs to be destabilized in order to break the “business as usual” destruction it promotes. I see eco and animal rights actions as promoting this. I think that these people promote awareness and have, in certain places, achieved great success through their actions. But in order to have complete success, if that is even possible, the Capitalist system must be destroyed. I’m not sure if suicide bombing is necessary in the eco/animal rights struggle. It may come to this eventually. Such tactics are more often used in situations like Palestine where choice of action is relatively low. I can’t really imagine what it would be like to be driven to such measures because I’ve never lived in that kind of a desperate situation, so I can’t really discuss it.
10. Do you have any big plans for spreading your message far and wide to the political underground? Do you see the potential Iskra has to spread these ideas to the wider populace? I mean, metal and punk are quite huge genres of music and everyone from every background I have played Iskra to, loves it. Be it grindcore, black metal, death, oi, punk, all of them can see where you are coming from and appreciate it.
Personally I want to put out more material and tour as much of the world as possible. The music will always have something to say. I can’t do it any other way really. Why write lyrics about fantasy or gore? or worse offensive crap like sexism or killing or whatever. You can have all the fun of performing in a band and also say something intelligent. I think it is more powerful that way. But then again, most people don’t want to think do they? It seems many bands love to revel in their ignorance and their will to be offensive. These people are the true consumers, perfect fodder for the capitalist project.
I don’t really care how far we get. There is no real goal, we just live day to day. Iskra may last ten years or it may end tomorrow. If we’ve reached one person (that is we’ve promoted thought) then we have been successful. The band was started due to the severe lack of revolutionary culture in this city(Victoria). I think political bands, in the anarchist sense, need to exist. Otherwise the only entertainment for the young will be mindless consumer trash. There always needs to be an alternative, even if the scene is small.
I think the people who are into the genres you described below understand us because collectively we listen to all of that music, plus much more. Our approach is not false because we live that music everyday.
Obviously I hope that our music has impact, but how and to what extent is out of my hands. Who can say.....
11. End this sordid discussion however you want
I think I’ve already said to much.......thanks!
RUSSIAN DBEAT MAG: DIVERSION
1. Let’s start with a “classic” question : tell us about the history of your band.
Iskra started in early 2003. Devin and I(Wolf) started the group and were soon joined by Scott(vocals),and Nick(guitar). We’ve went through 3 drummers: Calvert(Demos), Jasper(LP), and Jesse(7” and Montreal Demos); and 3 second vocalists: Sean(LP), Mel(7”), and Megan(nothing recorded). Iskra has toured Canada, Mexico, the US, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, and Italy. We have an LP out on Profane Existence(USA) and a 7” coming out on Unrest Records(Can). We were supposed to have a 2nd LP released on PE but they decided that we were not the “right type of music for the label,” and that we “didn’t sell enough records,” quoting Dan of the Profane Existence collective, which is unfortunate since Iskra is a pure anarchist band. In any case, we are doing a split LP with Against Empire of the USA on Rodent Popsicle Records(USA) soon. The line up for Iskra on that record will be Wolf-guitar, Devin-bass, Scott-vocals, and Brad-drums.
2. Judging by the name of your band ( and your lyrics as well) – you’re not only interested in Russian political history but also in communist movement. Could you comment on that ? Do you relate yourself to anarcho-punk movement ?
Yes, Iskra is an anarchist band. Although the name of the band is the same as the Lenninist paper, we have no affiliation with Marxist movements. In fact we are against Marxist organizations. We opt for open anarchist systems which are contingent upon that which exists within local environments. In other words not one anarchist vision, we believe in a multitude of possibilities without hierarchical pressures. Anyone who is not familiar with anarchism may want to check it out online. Wikipedia has a lot of information as does Ainfo.
3.Your lyrics are really “in depth” and play a very important part in your band. Who writes your lyrics? What do you think about those people who listen to hardcore/crust just because of the music and don’t pay any attention to the message?
We all pay attention to the lyrics, there are a couple of us who do most of the writing but to single them out would create hierarchies within people’s minds. We all discuss the lyrics, make changes when necessary, and decide upon topics so, in a sense, we are all involved. Iskra will not use a song unless we have agreement from all members.
It is very unfortunate when people in the scene do not pay attention to the message because they would be missing the point. At the same time we are providing alternative entertainment so not all the observers will be interested in the message but only in the driving angry rhythms of the music. I don’t want to put anyone down because we all have our own pace of intellectual absorption. Although it may seem that people are not paying attention it doesn’t mean they won’t check it out later, its hard to judge. There are those folks who have been into it a long time but don’t seem to be interested in progressive politics but only destroy themselves and people around them. This is unfortunate but there is nothing we can do about it since the choice is obviously up to them.
4.Your style of music is somewhat “black metal influenced” – that leads to many discussions among metal and hardcore scenes because your lyrics are very far from usual black metal stuff and as far as we understand you’re not one of those “grim and frostbitten” misanthropes who dance in the woods and sacrifice cats, however unlike more crust influenced “Diskra” your “Iskra” lp really sounds like a black metal record. I’m not an expert but I’d compare some songs from Iskra lp to “heavier” Marduk with vocals sung as if they are distorted by wind, like a giant hair-dryer is blowing at vocalist’s face. So what’s with all this black metal stuff ? Is it just a coincidence or you really decided to cross BM with metallic crust, thus creating quite an original sound…?
All members of Iskra listen to metal. Slayer, Bathory, Marduk, Immortal, Deicide...you name it, so it makes sense that this would be an influence on our music. I began writing blackened crust riffs as early as 95 in my old band Black Kronstadt(see “Paranoid Delusions” from the Free Spirit LP). Since Amebix could cross punk with early black metal it made sense to cross more modern black metal with crust. crust came from the thrash metal scene of the eighties so it is aligned with metal. Many of the old thrash bands such as Sodom, Detente, Nuclear Assault, Kreator, or Destruction had political lyrics so politics and metal already exists, perhaps not as “in depth” as ours but the seed was sown a long time ago. Therefore, although people reproach us for mixing brutal metal with anarchist lyrics, we see no contradiction. As for listening to metal with fucked up or questionable lyrics we obviously are unaffected since we are quite firm in our beliefs and convictions. Having a wide variety of music to listen to makes life much more tolerable. In my opinion anarchist metal is important. It creates an alternative within the metal scene. We get a lot of “metalheads” out to our shows, and we are glad of it since that is where we came from as well.
5. What you can tell us about Canadian crust-scene? Does it exist?
Yes, there is a crust scene in Canada! Quebec has a great history with old bands such as Apathetic Nations, Shitfit, Hellbound and Human Greed. It’s still rockin with Inepsy, Born Dead Icons, Ballast, Hands of Death, ManKillsMan, After the Bomb, Bludgeon etc.. British C Columbia is a little slower, back in the day there was Black Kronstadt(91-96) which, unfortunately, was the only crust band from the West Coast. There were political punk bands though such as Ninth Hour, Ultravires, and Offal Consumption etc. Now in BC we have, Mass Grave, Meat of Mankind, Limb From Limb, Mechanical Separation and Iskra. There are also some bands from the prairie provinces such as Self Rule and I’m sure Ontario has some great bands as well. Canada is of course an immense country with very little population (only 30 million whereas the states has 300 million), so the scenes might as well be in different countries! We rarely receive news from distant provinces. The scenes are therefore very provincial in nature.
6. Did you ever play in some other countries?
see question one
7. What members of the band do for living? What are your hobbies? What books you read? What bands you listen to? Are members of Iskra friends or just people who play together and have little in common?
Iskra are friends for sure, we help each other out and spend time with one another. We do different things from caregiving people with disabilities to construction to computer programming to whatever we can get! Wolf is trained as a classical music composer, so he gets some work writing music for new music groups etc. Books: check out “Pacifism as Pathology” by Ward Churchill, one of us is currently reading “Gramci is Dead” by Richard Day. “Only a Beginning; an Anarchist Anthology of Canada” by Allan Antliff is an interesting read. Ron Sakolsky’s “Creating Anarchy” is also a good book. We listen to a lot of bands collectively. Common favorites include: Protestera, Protess, Container Crusties From Hell, Toxic Waste, Destruction, Bathory, Terrorizer, Bob Dylan, the Pogues, Sacrilege, Buffy Saint Marie, Hank Williams, Boney M, Kreator, Slayer, Crass, Amebix, Nausea, Disaffect, Battle of Disarm, Rattus, Marduk, Satyricon, After the Bomb, Self Rule, Sanctum, Consume, Born Dead, Dirty Power Game, Oi Polloi, Conflict, Doom, Johney Cash, Cecil Taylor, Sore Throat, Detente, Resist and Exist, Diaspora, Phobia, Flux of Pink Indians, Gorgoroth, Dark Throne, Hellbastard, Health Hazard, Axegrinder, Hellshock, Immortal(especially “Battles in the North!”), In Haste, Migra Violenta, Beyond Description...etc. etc. ha ha, could keep going...we love a lot of music!
Hope you enjoy the interview. You can download most of our music for free from: www.iskra.ws
contact: iskra@iskra.ws
We hope to visit Russia some time. Anyone with any information about touring Russia feel free to get in touch with us. All the best and remember the great Russian anarchists, we do!
ISKRA INTERVIEW FOR PE #47
1. One of the most common reactions to your record has been that Iskra play death/black metal with anarcho-punk lyrics. Where did you come up with the idea of fusing such political lyrics with music that is generally reserved for songs about sacrificing virgins on the altar of satan?
Scott: I think our collective musical influences have a lot to do with how Iskra’s songs sound since the song-writing process is shared between members. The lyrical content is definitely a departure from the traditional metal themes, but we are hardly the first metal-influenced band with political lyrics. I listen to a lot of grindcore, which has many long-standing acts who have socially conscious messages and arguably strong musical ties with old-school metal.
Devin: Anarchism and politics should be fused with everything, not just punk.
Nick: I think that for along time crust has relied heavily on the sounds and styles of great pioneering bands like doom, amebix, venom and others. But to keep a musical genre alive, and relevant, new things need to be introduced, be it instruments or styles of music, and worked into the perameters, if you will, of that type of music. I think that the cold, harsh sound that black metal often employs in it’s music lends itself quite well to the bleak imagery of crust and the political lyrics we have. Wolf: It seems that whenever one tries something a little different there are a multitude of reactions. Of course the first thing people do is to try and corner the style and attach labels. I suppose that, in a society where everything is based upon consumerism and conformity, this is a “normal” reaction. As a band we certainly have debates about which style a group falls under. This activity can be pretty pointless at times. On the other hand it helps to develop a sense of history as well as a trajectory of evolution within your own music. The great Russian composer Stravinsky once said that “good composers don’t copy, they steal,” and what he meant by that statement is that we can only develop what we know and the more we understand the more effect we are at building upon rather than simply replicating. This dynamic is important to understand since it is through mimetic response that we absorb and process information. Once this understanding is established it is possible to create a new perspective. There is nothing that “drops from the sky,” so to speak, everything has an origin and I think its important to know where you come from and where you are going.
Personally, I like to put things into some kind of historical perspective. I have listened to the punk trajectory and see anarchist punk music as being authentic. That is, it stays relatively true to what punk originally stood for, i.e. against the control mechanisms of society, governments and such. Not to be confused with what is sometimes referred to as “mall punk” and you know who those bands are. In fact there are now many streams of so-called “punk” which exist in a multitude of environments, most of which serve capitalism. The old sound of the original punk style was dead a long time ago when it fell into the claws of the mainstream music industry. The members of Crass saw this as far back as 1979 and outlined their opinion in the song “Punk Is Dead.” Probably due to the vast amount of documentation on bands such as The Sex Pistols and the Clash (roughly 90% of mainstream literature is on these two bands, the other 10% is a mishmash of New York and California documentation, as well as the one on DC Hardcore), many young people encounter the “old school” sound first. The result is the unfortunate transition to the many mainstream bands that now sound punk but are “ just another cheap product for the consumer’s head.” There are the anomalies, the odd person who finds the mainstream and then the underground, but I think its safe to say that most people will stick to the more mainstream sound.
That said, I’ve followed the evolution of the anarchist punk underground and found that the UK crust bands, by crossing 80s black and thrash metal with punk, had saved the genre from sudden death simply by allowing it to evolve. Many people were against this metal influence because it was “not punk.” In fact this argument is weak since punk and metal both came from the same place, which of course was rock n’ roll. Rock came from blues men and women such as Bessie Smith and Robert Johnson, and that stuff came from gospel churches of the Southern U.S. where the kids learned how to play the European classical music. Everything is really just watered down tonal music (common practice classical from Bach to Mahler) with various levels of complexity, i.e. jazz is more complex than rock because its closer to its classical roots then basic rock,(until people like Cecil Taylor came along!). So there is no real argument, metal is just as legitimate. Both metal and rock are rooted in working class angst and challenge the status quo, just like punk. There are certainly no “righteous” reasons for choosing one over the other. Again the phobia is probably the result of the will to conform.
In any case, metal had come to punk and created utterly new directions. It was because of this fusing that we have Crust, Grind, Anarcho-Thrash, Powerviolence, Hardcore, Black Crust, Crustcore, etc. etc. Punk has become as diverse as its original anti-conformity stance would have wanted it to. So why say its either “this” or “that?” There are periods and trends of conformity within the movement. Without attaching to much baggage to it, we just wanted to do something different. We are simply taking elements of all the music we have listened to over the years and revamped it into our own style. Having style, original style, is very important to me as a musician. I can’t play something that is a clone of something else. I see no point in rewriting a style, especially if someone has already done a brilliant job. I don’t think we have to list a bunch of bands here, Anyone who knows music will hear our influences directly, we make reference to them constantly, both musically and lyrically.
2. What are the roots of the highly political nature of the band? Where do your ideas come from?
Scott: I try and stay informed about current events through various forms of media, and I feel it is important to address issues that face individuals in a local and global community today rather than making generic statements. A portion of the time is definitely spent researching facts and supporting information so we are not making vapid assertions and just using emotive language. If someone has an opportunity to spread positive messages and vital information they should take it.
Wolf: Our ideas come from what we see going on around us. In this respect we’re not really any different from other topical song writers. We do differ, I think, in the delivery of the message. Again it comes down to having an original style. As a song writer I try to create something worth reading. I consider the reader at all times and try to ensure there will be something of interest from an alternative perspective. Our lyrics can be pretty dense at times. Its not that we want them to be “essays” its just that in order to complete a thought on something complex, say US foreign policy in the middle east, you have say more than “war sucks.” That is if you are at all serious about encouraging thoughtful insight. We all know war sucks and we all know that there are charred corpses and starving children, but do we really understand the situation? Since the systems which create wars, be they capital structures, marxist structures, democratic, liberal etc., are never going to give us the real story, its up to us to empower ourselves. I think, by writing lyrics which have some depth, we are doing our small part, as musicians, in discovering the truth and making that truth known. We’re not politicians, nor are we historians but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make an attempt at knowing what's going on around us and what we, as part of society, are contributing to. Our main purpose is to provide music for, and to build, a conscious counterculture. I don’t really need to state how powerful music is as a way of communicating ideas. Its a very effective tool and especially useful in reaching the growing pool of dispossessed youth, which is where most punks, including ourselves, come from. I think we should take it seriously and not abuse this power. We are not interested in recruiting people for the revolution or whatever, we’re not a vanguard. We simply want to provide truth, and it is through this process that we can perhaps convince people to search out their own understanding and to make their own choices. This is the beginning to discovering useful alternatives.
Nick: Today’s political climate has created a polarization of ethics. It is no longer enough to simply stand by and hope for the best. I have seen friends and family sued by developers who had politicians in their back pocket, paid for by drug money. When this type of thing is allowed, you have to say something.
3. You recently added a female singer changing the dynamic of the band. How has this lineup change worked for the band as a whole? How has the sound changed with a newer singer?
Devin: I don’t think the dynamic has changed much. Mel lives in a different town, which makes rehearsal a little difficult, but otherwise its great a far as I’m concerned. Stylistically, Mel has a deeper voice.
Nick: Mel is a great singer and a fantastic person. I think her voice adds a new dimension to our sound. The lower more gruff voice she has meshes quite well with scott’s black metal shriek, resulting in pure vokill terrorism.
Scott: Originally the band started with only 1 vocalist, I think musically having two singers is much more interesting and makes room for a lot more diverse songwriting. That being said, its gone really well redoing old songs with Mel and preparing new songs for future releases.
4. What other projects have you been involved with? How do you feel Iskra is a progression from Black Kronstadt?
Wolf: Besides Iskra, I’ve been involved with Contempt, Black Kronstadt, and I played second guitar for Destestation on their ‘96 Westcoast tour. I also write music for orchestral instruments as one of my occupations. I recently completed a tour of Canada with the Ensemble Contemporain de Montreal, a francophone new music group, who performed a work I’d written for ten instrumentalists. Within the contemporary music scene I keep pretty busy fullfilling a number of comittments which include commissions and composition workshops.
Personally I don’t see or hear Iskra as a progression of Black Kronstadt. Black Kronstadt was simply a different band with different musical sensibilities, interests and personalities. There are similarities and/or differences, but these are obvious. One could compare and contrast as they would any other two bands I guess, but I don’t really see the benefit in this activity. I mean, don’t we have anything better to do?
Scott: I spend almost every day making music, I play drums and guitars as well and I am involved in various local grind and blackmetal projects. I try to work as little as possible and concentrate on strategies for living cooperatively with other local like-minded people.
Concerning Black Kronstadt, I really like their recorded material but honestly had not heard them until I met Wolf, after I joined Iskra. I think its great when people who were into Black Kronstadt come out to see what their former members are up to these days.
Devin: I’ve played in bands with Scott, Nick, and Jesse before Iskra. I’ve was never in Black Kronstadt so I can’t really speak for them.
5. Are you all excited to play CLITfest next year? What does a festival like this mean to you?
Scott: Personally I am always excited to play shows, and I am looking forward to CLITFest especially because I feel so strongly about women’s rights. We are always looking for ways to support and involve ourselves in any way we can, and this festival signifies a lot of effort and scene solidarity over issues surrounding sexism.
Devin: I find it interesting that anarchists run such large scale events. Things like Clitfest just don’t happen where we’re from.
Wolf: I’m sure it will be a great time. Its an unique opportunity to support our sisters in music and see some great bands. I think the main idea of the festival, supporting women performers in the scene, is wonderful and I look forward to participating.
Mel: Events like Clitfest also help to educate people. There are workshops on sexism and rape, which makes this more than just a musical event, it attempts to negotiate real problems within our society. It will be great for me to meet more women actually involved in the scene and that are playing in bands.
6. Who writes the lyrics? Are they primarily written by one member, or is it a collective effort?
Devin: Iskra is a collective effort.
7. What do you do to uphold your beliefs in every day life outside of your band? What other projects and collectives are you involved with?
Devin: I boycott capitalism by being unemployed! I’m involved in anarchist groups and are in the process of opening an anarchist book/record/info shop.
Scott: I try to exist with as much disregard for lawful authority and government interference as possible. There are many strategies to not support the systems we are ideologically opposed to.
Nick: i try to be conscience of how and where I support myself, and what and who i’m supporting when i buy things. I just basically try to not take part ina society that is fucked and doesn’t seem very concerned with fixing itself unless it provides a nice photo op.
Mel: I am currently working for a place called the Portland Hotel Society who are involved and work with the homeless, prostitution, drug problems in the lower east side of Vancouver. The cafe I work at is a complex that includes a dentist office, laundromat, and permanent housing for the poor. This project offers extremely cheap deals for the workers of the Portland Society and free service for some of the people in the neighborhood. the Society actually gives a shit about their staff. All and all I really enjoy my job, which is rare, and hope to get more involved with helping out the prostitutes and the women shelters which, thanx to Gordon Campbell (the BC premiere) are few and far between. Also In the past years I have organized food and clothing drives for the homeless.
Wolf: I don’t feel that anarchists should feel pressure to have to do “anarchist activity.” At the same time there is a lot of positive anarchism that goes unnoticed or is not recognized as revolutionary.
Iskra are just regular people; we go to work, buy food, pay our bills and live the same mundane existence within our “safe” society as anyone else. The difference is that we’re, perhaps, a little more sensible, as are most conscious people, when it comes to everyday interaction with “the world.” As a result we become deviated from the status quo. We’re not going to be one of those workers who gets off saying sexist shit to or about women, rather we’ll be the ones who condemn such stupidities. Within various social contexts we’re conscious of what we do and say because we know that language and social behavior is carefully constructed and taught by the system we hate. This sort of everyday approach is important. That's not to say we’re angels or anything! We all say stupid shit occasionally or get fed up. The important thing is that we make an attempt to be aware.
We try, in our small way, to know and understand how things work,i.e. who makes decisions and why, the effects of issues such as Free Trade, the differences between what the leaders tell us and what really happens on the street, what privatization really means, etc. etc. We relay our findings to friends, acquaintances, and loved ones by using our voices. We present our findings to people beyond our immediate reach through our band. We rarely “preach,” as it were, but like to look for truths and voice our opinions. This is done for no other reason then the hope that other people might also begin seeing the truth and thinking for themselves. This is how alternatives begin to take form.
Its important to give yourself credit. Know what you do. What makes you active? We play music which discusses alternative possibilities, we distribute radical information within a cultural context, some of us are involved in various anarchist organizations (we are currently participating in the creation of a West Coast Anarchist Federation), some of us are are currently involved, as Devin already pointed out, in the opening of an anarchist info shop (the first one to appear in Victoria since Sabat! in the nineties), some of us do art, we all set up shows etc. etc. The same type of activity anyone else does really. At the same time we don’t feel pressure to do anything! Simply being anarchistic involves much activity because you have to constantly negotiate a society which, although on the surface appears well, is wrought with anxiety, corruption, and sickness. A society hellbent on destroying the itself as well as the environment it is dependent upon, or so it seems. Often we are tired and basically just live to get by. I totally support anyone who goes underground and attempts to destabilize the system through militant direct action. I hold such life sacrifices in high esteem.
8. The struggle for Aboriginal rights is very strong in the Pacific Northwest. Is there any chance for this struggle to be joined by and with the nonnative anarchist community?
Wolf: Yes there is. For reasons of security it cannot really be discussed openly, nor do I know everything that is going on. Lets just say that there is activity and communication between anarchists and natives in the area. Some members of the West Coast Warriors Society, for example, have a knowledge of anarchism and anarchist history. Some see it as a possible solution to coexistence. I believe the indigenous writer and historian Taiaiake (http://www.taiaiake.com/home/wcws.html) is currently writing a book on the subject of indigenous anarchism (that is native people involved with anarchism), which should be a real eye-opener. Of course there is a strong history of cooperation between anarchists and indigenous people.
A major point of contention is the 2010 winter olympics scheduled to happen here in BC. BC is unceded territory, that is the land was never negotiated through treaty process and therefore still belongs, by international law, to the first nations. The 2010 olympic agenda particularly effects the Lil’wat, Squamish, and Shuswap nations who will have to deal first hand with all the capitalist bullshit and oppression that such an event promotes. Its very complex, but important to keep in mind, since there will not doubt be some major events taking place over the next five years (and beyond) due to the constant tension between indigenous peoples and the capitalist white agenda. For more information you may want to check this site out:
http://users.resist.ca/~wiinimkiikaa/issue1/olympics_vancouver.shtml
I urge anyone who is interested to help anyway that they can. There is plenty of information on the web and any support would be greatly appreciated. At least let your neighbor know or something! Keeping indigenous struggle in the forefront or our consciousness is important because when the shit goes down we will want to know the real story. It is only through knowing the truth that we can provide effective support. Media demonization is immediate and punishing. Often there are collaborators within the native ranks (sellout chiefs and band councils) which often causes a lot of confusion amongst people who are not on the ball. Be alert.
Scott: I think ultimately the Aboriginal rights movement in the Pacific Northwest and all of Canada share many common goals with the anarchists that live in the same areas: a simple example would be self-sufficiency and autonomy. Its seems logical to cooperate to achieve these same ends and I hope, as opportunities arise to resist our racist government’s initiatives of theft from and exploitation of Aboriginals, there will be support from many nonnative people.
9. Your song “acceptance not tolerance” off your first LP addresses homophobia in the US and the differences between laws regarding same sex marriages in the US and Canada. How do most people in Canada view the blatant homophobia and discrimination occurring now in the US? Does this exist in Canada as well? How do we deal, as activists, punks, concerned humans, with this oppression?
Devin: 54% of Canadians support gay-marriage. I think the blatant homophobia/discrimination in the US and Canada is fucking sick! I would assume that at least 54% of Canadians would agree. Its important to note that a high percentage of such statistics are drawn from an older population, one which generally opposes queer. So such statistics will change dramatically within the next ten to twenty years. In others words the population will be younger and perhaps more accepting.
Mel: All of our larger centers (Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal in particular) are extremely accepting and have large queer sections within the city (gay villages). The province of Alberta, on the other hand, seems to be a bit more backwards in regards to such issues. Ralph Kline, the premiere, has outlawed gay marriage provincially. Don’t forget that Canada has both a provincial law and a federal law, which don’t always coincide.
Wolf: The United States is sort of like looking through a crystal ball; whatever happens there eventually happens here. At least in terms of social adjustment, mostly negative. There is immense economic and even military threats imposed by the US which affects our political structure. Sellout scumbag politicians (are there any other?) like Paul Martin, Ralph Kline, Gordon Campbell, etc. are more than happy to stick their greasy paws into that proverbial shit pie and collect their chunk. To the detriment of us all. With this in mind such things as the “back to creation” movement happening in the US, spearheaded by Education Secretary Rod Paige, is frightening (it is a major debate among many states to replace the scientific theories of evolution with christian theories of creation, within the public school system). Rod has said that he “prefers schools that have a strong appreciation for the values of the Christian community.” The laws against queer folks, which of course stem from the twisted morality of faith based institutions, is, in most Canadian minds, absolutely insane. But lets not get ahead of ourselves, these views exist here. They are not as noticeable, perhaps due to the extreme difference of population (our population is around 30 million, yours is around 300 million). Most of our christian fanatics live in the province of Alberta, collectively understood as being more “advanced” in its right wing agenda, although this filth has now spread to the other provinces in a big way. Such is the trend right now with the neo-liberal takeover of the country. For those of you who don’t know, the neo-liberals work pretty closely with the neo-cons of the US. We do have a more right wing party, The Canadian Alliance, who push for complete US/Canada integration and are pretty much identical to the pigs running your country right now.
To even consider a law which dictates sexual orientation is absurd. We are against laws, preferring a system of morals and ethics, without authoritarian structures but with a high level of individual responsibility. Our state system supports same-sex unions, but the very idea of applying laws to such choice is backwards. That people have the choice, in our minds, is a given. Obviously if I had to choose one law over the other, in our present situation, there would be no question as to which I would support. But the root of the problem is that we have politicians and business men dictating how we live our lives, and this should not be. I think your question is answered by the first lines of the song really:
‘Canada has taken steps to redefine the laws of marriage Same sex unions are now possible throughout the nation Yet antigay sentiment exists on the streets to this day One third of lesbians and gays are victims of violent aggression.’
In other words the problems that we try to hide still exist. We may have gay pride parades (complete with corporate sponsorship) but beatings and murders are still prevalent. The real tragedy with antigay legislation, such as that proposed by Bush and his gang, is that the average ignorant populace believes, since the ruling system openly considers queer to be “deviant,” and “criminal” behavior, that its ok to torture and kill gays and lesbians. Bush obviously wants queers dead, it shows in his decision making process. For example, one third of the prevention funds in the $15 billion AIDS bill signed by Bush are earmarked for abstinence education. Again, what's happens on the streets and what happens in the minds of politicians is almost the exact opposite. Bush’s belief that sexual abstinence, which will never happen, will solve the AIDS problem is a figment of his imagination, as are most of his ideas.
Scott: I think homophobes are fucked, and am disgusted when I encounter them in the metal and punk communities.
11. How is the punk community in Victoria? Is it separated from the punk community in Vancouver? How closely is it tied with the punk circles in Seattle and Portland, or does the border create a barrier for bands?
Mel: There has been more bands, from the neighboring cities, coming together, performing and generally hanging out. Bands such as Bury Whats Dead, Neckbeerd, Massgrave, Meat of Mankind, Chuck Norris, Limb from Limb, the Arrested etc. There are others I’m sure. The scenes in both Victoria and Vancouver are growing quite rapidly with people moving here from other parts of Canada. The weather has a lot to do with this....pussies! Note that we get very little snow and the weather doesn’t have the extremes that other parts of the country do. Unfortunately there are not a lot of women actively involved in the punk scenes here, hopefully this will change.
Wolf: We have a lot more connection with Vancouver than Seattle or Portland, although we are aware of what bands exist in those cities. We play Vancouver regularly so we know what's going on there, generally. There is a lot of interaction with shows and such, not so much politically.
The border is a concern but it seems that most US bands, and anarchists (Victoria is a regular stop for anarchist artists and lecturers) generally make it to their shows and vice-versa.
Devin: The Victoria punk is small, but sometimes also really cool. Being on an island, we are pretty isolated. Going back and forth between the neighboring cities can be pretty expensive. We generally lose a fair bit of cash playing shows over the water. Seattle and Portland are pretty disconnected, we’ve been a band for two years and have yet to perform in these cities. Our premieres will be in January during our Westcoast tour. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of interest from bands from those cities to play here. I hate big city folk and Americans any ways! Ha Ha, just kidding.
12. What does ISKRA mean?
Wolf: Iskra is a Russian word meaning ‘spark’ or ‘light.’ For me, its a nice sounding word with wonderful connotations. Of course it also conjures up associations with certain Marxist organizations, the famous Leninist paper, which shares this title, immediately comes to mind. Its sort of a humorous nudge to those people, since we are obviously opposed to any Marxist ideologies.
13. Any future projects / release s / tours in the works?
We have a tour down the Westcoast in January, check the Profane site for details; we have three splits coming out over the next year, one with More Bad News (Czech), Masseperation (Malaysia), and a 4 way split from Vancouver with us, Massgrave, Limb From Limb, and Bury Whats Dead. We are also working towards a Europe tour within the next year. Hopefully most of these projects will materialize as planned. Thanks to Profane Existence for the interview.
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